Discovered in the Holly and the Ivy - Pros Crossword Answers

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry I haven't been around much. We're travelling in New Zealand, and I'm just popping in here to post the answers before checking out of our delightful B&B in Dunedin. The answers to the crossword are under the cut. If you prefer, there's a link to a *.pdf file which has a completed crossword on the second page.

Alas, no-one managed to complete the puzzle in its entirety. Reckon I should take responsibility for making the clues too tough *g*.


Answers Across
1. Bolt
2. Bodie
6. Priapismic
7. PMPD
11. First Night
12. Orchids
14. Models
16. Anonymity
24. Marty
25. Masochistic pleasure
27. Heroes
29. Morris
30. Rice pudding
31. Units
32. Bayswater
33. Chalice
34. If
35. Charles Dance
37. Holly
38. Contract
39. Tethered
40. Batak
41. WCA

Answers Down
1. Badger
3. Sister
4. Marston Dale
5. New Tricks
8. Mayli
9. Brown sugar
10. Piet Van Neikerk
11. Franky
13. Moscow Dynamos
15. Organisation
17. Dusty Rhodes
18. Julius Caesar
19. Lubrication
20. Miss Walsh
21. Beech Street
22. Tim Hockley
23. Honeymoon
26. Drug
28. Cricket
36. Louts

Comments

[sw33n3y.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the answers and the original link. I was curious about the ones I didn't get (and there were a few)! :D

Enjoy the rest of your trip.

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Back now! Trip was wonderful, I shall do pictures later, I hope.

I think there were a few that were too hard - interested in which ones you found impossible. I used an internet program that let me download a pdf, it wasn't completely free for the version I needed but very close to. Thank you for giving it a go.

[sw33n3y.livejournal.com]

interested in which ones you found impossible

Yes, well to save embarrasment, let's just say it would be easier to list the ones I got. :D

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Thanks so much for the answers - I'd've hated to never know! *g* I must admit, I'm struggling to work out a couple even with question and answer in front of me:
14. Models (They were nice girls)
18. Julius Caesar (Shakespeare transposed)

And I don't think I would have ever have got 22. Tim Hockley either - I can't for the life of me remember who he was now, never mind for an anagram!

The clues were pretty tough, but they were good fun - I'm just sorry that you're not going to be writing anyone a Pros drabble! It's been sooooo long since I read a new KWS-fic... you know, not that I'd stoop so low as to hint... *g*

Hope you're enjoying your trip!

[freetraveller15.livejournal.com]

That was quite tough, I agree. I got nearly half the clues right (in some cases, not even looking at how many letters a clue was made of), but the rest were difficult to guess, some of them especially tough without knowing which episode they referred to. For example, with 29 Across ("Cowley") I wouldn't know where to start, if I didn't know which ep it was from or had a bit more explanation with it.

I also think part of the difficulty solving the puzzle was in the clues' layout, with very few across/down intersections, so solving one clue wouldn't necessarily help much solving another one close-by.
I think "Julius Caesar" refers to the play transposed to Nazi Germany in The Gun episode. I didn't guess the clue, mainly because although I remembered there was one Shakespearean play transposed to another era featuring in one of the episodes, I didn't remember which play it was.
I've now looked up "Tim Hockley" and he was one of the characters (a lawyer?) in No Stone. I wouldn't be able to guess that clue either, but mainly because No Stone is my least favourite episode ever, I've only watched it once and don't plan on rewatching it, I hated it so much (despite one or two good moments) for its bleakness that I must have removed lots of details from my mind since then.
24 Across ("If you like that sort of thing") I knew which scene it was from and who spoke that line, but I still didn't guess the solution because the clue just reported the words spoken by Marty, but didn't ask (overtly or not) the solver who it spoke those lines; so basically I wasn't sure what the clue was asking the solver; plus "you" spoken by Marty might refer to Doyle or be a general "you", so I even thought the solution might be "Doyle". On the other hand, I think, other quote-based clues are clearer about what they ask of the solver, for example 23 Down ("Tell them it’s over, Sally": Cowley's words are "Tell them the honeymoon's over", so it's clear that having the clue replaced "honeymoon" with "it" the solver is asked to say what it is meant by "it").
14 Across ("They were nice girls"): LOL the solution was on the tip of my tongue for days, till I finally cracked it. I remembered it was spoken by Doyle, in a very endearing way I might add, but didn't remember which episode it was from, but I finally remembered it was part of that funny conversation about Doyle taking art classes and Bodie taking the mickey ("if a bird posed nude with an apple, you painted the apple") out of him...

Anyway, I had a lot of fun with this crossword all the same. 😊

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't sure how it would go, and I did use an internet crossword generator for the layout. The one I ended up with had the most overlaps after a lot of tinkering!

I think a few episode clues would have helped a lot *nods*.

Glad you had fun anyway :)

[freetraveller15.livejournal.com]

*waves*
Thanks for your reply and feedback. Wow, I didn't know such a thing like an internet crossword generator even existed!
I look forward to any Pros-based puzzles you might want to create in future :)

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

I used an internet crossword program, originally I was trying for cryptic for all the clues but I realised that would be impossible. I thought the models/nice girls clue was a reasonably easy one, the other two were a bit tricky!

I've had a couple of ideas for something more focused, so you never know *g*.